Red or Blue, What Would Jesus Do?

This video is one of the best messages that I have ever heard! During such a time as this…where left vs. right (in this current, highly divisive election season) can learn that we ALL will benefit from God’s Word. Why? Because it will tell us what’s most important in this life; as well as what is crucial to know in the life to come in the Kingdom of Jesus Christ!

6 Responses to “Red or Blue, What Would Jesus Do?”

  1. christinewjc Says:

    I am reminded of a Christian book/apparel store that used to be in a mall near my home that unfortunately closed many years ago, called C28. It’s name was taken from a Bible verse – Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

    The notes in my Bible say “Paul rebuffs the four deceptions that undermine Christianity in all ages – philosophy, deceit, the tradition of men, the basic principles of this world – with a definitive and positive statement regarding Christ’s identity. Believers have all they need in Jesus.”
    This is what Pastor Miles was pointing out in his video message when he differentiated between the Kingdom of Christ vs. the “kingdoms” of men.
    The next verse in Colossians 9 says “For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.”

    That verse tells us that Jesus is the head of all that goes on in the United States, in fact, in the world. Jesus knows the beginning and the end of all things, so of course He knows who will be leaders in the governments on this earth. Of course, no human government could ever be perfect, and many of them are not good. We know from history that evil that can be done by men of perdition. That’s why we should pray about and for our leaders. And we should pray for people on both sides of the political spectrum, and pray for peace when elections are decided.

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  2. GMpilot Says:

    I’m not Jesus, so I can’t pretend to know what he would do. The question Pastor Miles should ask is, what would you do?

    …That’s why we should pray about and for our leaders.

    I can believe you prayed about Trump’s predecessor, but I have doubts that you ever prayed for him. I’ve read your posts.

    And we should pray for people on both sides of the political spectrum, and pray for peace when elections are decided.

    A spectrum has no ‘sides’; all the colors blend into each other. Orange, yellow, and green separate red from blue.
    A ‘red’ anti-abortionist might want abortion to be forbidden at all times, under all circumstances. Someone who supports that position except in cases of rape and/or incest might be ‘orange’ on that spectrum. What of those who might allow it if the woman’s life is in danger? ‘Orange-yellow’, perhaps?

    ‘Pray[ing] for peace when elections are decided’ will not work. It never has. If it did, we’d never have had a civil war 160 years ago. Working for peace is better, and requires more effort that just putting one’s hands together. I don’t think Jesus ever said “blessed are the peaceprayers”.
    I’m not sure even that will work, though. Since Jesus knows the beginning and the end of all things, events must be going exactly the way he wants them to. If you believe prayer can make him change his mind, then he must know that, too.

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    • christinewjc Says:

      So…are you admitting that Jesus is the Son of God? Or do you acknowledge that but just continue to refuse to follow Him?

      I thought that Pastor Miles’ message was more eternal, rather than just earthly driven. As he so adeptly illustrated, Jesus’ Kingdom is not of this world. When we belong to Him, we are not of this world either. We are here – for a time – to seek Him via His Word in the Bible, and do our best to follow Him; share the gospel, and help others in need while here. Ultimately, we work to help others find Him.

      He is a forgiving Savior precisely because “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

      No matter what happens in this world, as a believer in Jesus Christ I’m so glad that this world is not my eternal home.

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  3. GMpilot Says:

    CJW: So…are you admitting that Jesus is the Son of God? Or do you acknowledge that but just continue to refuse to follow Him?

    We went through all this years ago. I have long said that I believe that Jesus was a real person, but that it was his alleged divinity I had doubts about. (I still have them.) I don’t believe that Jesus was the son of anyone except Joseph and Mary.
    What I did was to quote you. You claimed in your first post that “Jesus knows the beginning and the end of all things”, so I followed that reasoning to its logical conclusion.

    …Jesus’ Kingdom is not of this world. When we belong to Him, we are not of this world either.

    “His mind is so full of heaven that he’s of no earthly good.” You’ve probably heard that expression. If you are ‘not of this world’, then of what use are you to anyone? Do you feed the hungry, comfort the afflicted, love your neighbors? Or do you scream and moan about how oppressed you are? How many others do you think you’ll bring to your god by whining?

    He is a forgiving Savior precisely because “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”

    He is forgiving only if you obey. Unlike the sun, which shines equally on the righteous and the reprobate, your savior picks and chooses whom he will save (Matt 7:21~23).

    No matter what happens in this world, as a believer in Jesus Christ I’m so glad that this world is not my eternal home.

    Not mine, either. I, the individual you know as GMpilot, don’t expect to be around forever. I’m not that vain.

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    • christinewjc Says:

      GM,

      I recall reading your profile from the past that stated, “I was a Christian, but now I’m not.”

      There is such a thing known as “backsliding” from one’s faith. There is also the possibility of a person not having true faith in the first place. Which one describes you?

      I recall sharing a link about 365 prophesies in the Old Testament that were fulfilled by Jesus. At the time, you objected to my sharing so many with you, and you stated that I should have just shared, “a few.”

      You wrote:

      “ He is forgiving only if you obey. Unlike the sun, which shines equally on the righteous and the reprobate, your savior picks and chooses whom he will save.”

      Your view in that regard is highly skewed. It is true that “without faith, it is impossible to please God.” Why? Because we must believe that He is real and He is God. It takes faith to do that. We also have the truth of the Bible ( and fulfilled prophecy) as proof of such claims.

      You seem to want to blame God for your inability to believe. However, He has demonstrated all we need to know through Jesus in order for us to believe. Of course, each of us have the free will choice in that matter, don’t we?

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  4. GMpilot Says:

    CJW:I recall reading your profile from the past that stated, “I was a Christian, but now I’m not.”
    There is such a thing known as “backsliding” from one’s faith. There is also the possibility of a person not having true faith in the first place. Which one describes you?

    First you’ll have to tell me the difference between ‘true faith’ and any other sort of faith, because that sounds like you’re poisoning the well. Doesn’t everyone who believes in something have true faith in it?
    There is also such a thing as “revelation”. There is the possibility of someone having something shown to them that they did not know before. That describes me rather well.

    I recall sharing a link about 365 prophesies in the Old Testament that were fulfilled by Jesus. At the time, you objected to my sharing so many with you, and you stated that I should have just shared, “a few.”

    Then you may remember that I asked if you wanted me to address all of those prophecies, rather than ‘a few’. If I had, we’d probably still be at it to this day. If you have strong arguments, than lead with those. If you think you have a point I cannot dispute, show it to me! We’ve argued prophecies before, and I’ve pointed out some flaws in them.

    You wrote:
    “ He is forgiving only if you obey. Unlike the sun, which shines equally on the righteous and the reprobate, your savior picks and chooses whom he will save.”
    Your view in that regard is highly skewed. It is true that “without faith, it is impossible to please God.” Why? Because we must believe that He is real and He is God. It takes faith to do that. We also have the truth of the Bible ( and fulfilled prophecy) as proof of such claims.

    Okay. Now, why must we believe that? Is it because god has no power if we don’t?
    I can show you at least two things in the Bible that are not true. I was raised to believe that that book is the Word of God, and that everything in it is true. That means that if even one thing in it can be shown to be untrue, then it is no longer a source of truth. Exactly what is meant by ‘the truth of the Bible’, anyway?

    You seem to want to blame God for your inability to believe. However, He has demonstrated all we need to know through Jesus in order for us to believe. Of course, each of us have the free will choice in that matter, don’t we?

    Oh no, I don’t blame god for that, since I don’t believe he/she/it exists. That’s where the free will choice applies, because in a universe where someone ‘knows the end before the beginning’ (as you recently told me), free will cannot exist. So, no god = free will. Simple as that.

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