Right vs. Wrong Has Been Replaced by an Us vs. Them Morality in the Culture Wars

Personally, I do not always agree with everything that Rush Limbaugh says on his radio program.  However, there were four segments yesterday that help explain why right vs. wrong has been replaced by an “us vs. them” kind of mindset within our nation’s views about morality; as well as the current culture wars battles raging across our country.

Go to Rush Limbaugh.com and read the transcripts of the following headlines:

1.  The Bathroom Battle: Right vs. Wrong Has Been Replaced by Us vs.Them

I was listening to his radio show yesterday, and I thought that Rush was spot on with his analysis that many people do not see issues as “right vs. wrong,” anymore, but have more of an “us vs. them” mentality when it comes to moral issues and biblical principles. Conservatives (and especially Bible-based Christians are the “them” in his analysis).

Excerpt:

RUSH: The key to understanding this, folks, in my humble estimation, is that it’s not about right versus wrong anymore.  It can’t be or we wouldn’t be losing these things. Right versus wrong, the left has been clever in eliminating that, right versus wrong, as a determinant in behavior.  And what it’s been replaced by is us versus them.  Us versus them.  And the “us” are the oppressed, grievance-filled minorities who feel like they have been denied liberty, freedom, whatever they think they’ve been denied by these evil majorities.  We are the villain.  And that’s the battle now.

IMHO, this explains why certain people who once held to biblical morality (or, perhaps never did in the first place and just claimed that they did??) have been fooled away from such beliefs.  Perhaps they ignore them now because they are not “cool.”   They will overlook so many of the false narratives that persons like Trump gets away with via the media of mass deception.

Why would people do this?

Because they just want to win an election SO BADLY that they will dismiss in their own minds what is clearly written out in Scripture as being wrong; and they also allow themselves to turn a blind eye to what has always been considered right – morally speaking.  Thus, it’s an “us vs. them” battle going on – even across political party lines!

At the link, also read:

2.  Changing Trump Confounds Everyone.

3.  LGBT Bathroom Callers Demonstrate How the Left Wins.

4.  Your EIB Lesson of the Day: In Order to Attract Voters to Our Side, We Must Abandon Everything We Believe In.

Side note:  The last caller of the day in this segment revealed a fact that the media of mass deception isn’t telling the public!

Excerpt:

CALLER: Well, Rush, I just wanted to make clear the fact that the Donald is making issue statements about not having all the information. Here in Charlotte, the city council was hijacked by the LGBT community, and they changed the law for nondiscrimination, opening up the bathroom portion of the law.

RUSH: Right.

CALLER: And now he makes a statement that we should keep it the same. Well, it was changed, and now we gotta fight.

RUSH: Yeah, here’s the point. This is a good point. It’s a good point. What Alan is saying here is they had laws in North Carolina for bathrooms. Men’s room, women’s room and so forth, and LGBT activists — actually in North Carolina I think it was a noted sex offender, an accused sex offender, convicted, pushed the change in the law to where there’s essentially no signs and anybody can use any bathroom at any time at all based on how they feel, how they want to present or what have you.

And he says that Trump’s argument today was they should just leave it the way it was. And Alan’s point, the way it was was perfectly fine until some political agitators came along and advocated for the change to accommodate them. And if the argument is gonna be leave it the way it was, the way it was was the way it was for decades, centuries, if you will. So, Alan I’m glad that you were able to get that in using brevity. Appreciate it.

END TRANSCRIPT

Did you catch that specific information about the accused sex offender pushing such an aberrant law that was revealed in the Rush’s comment?

What Alan is saying here is they had laws in North Carolina for bathrooms. Men’s room, women’s room and so forth, and LGBT activists — actually in North Carolina I think it was a noted sex offender, an accused sex offender, convicted, pushed the change in the law to where there’s essentially no signs and anybody can use any bathroom at any time at all based on how they feel, how they want to present or what have you.”

A convicted sex offender pushed the change in the law!  Those of us sounding the alarm bells for protection of little girls in the lady’s restroom are correct to be absolutely outraged about this!!!  The insanity just gets worse and worse!

Now, let’s change gears and talk about what we can learn from God’s Word about this or any other issue regarding morality.

Bible-based Christians call such abandoning of moral values as “exchanging the truth for a lie.”

Jesus reveals “the father of lies” in John 8:44.

Jhn 8:44

“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

Paul reiterates this truth and how the righteousness of God DOESN’T CHANGE (even though there are men who will try!) and that we are not to conform to the ungodly lusts of this fallen world.

Rom 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ,[fn] for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

Rom 1:17

For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”[fn]

Rom 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,

Rom 1:19

because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them.

Rom 1:20

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

Rom 1:21

because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Rom 1:22

Professing to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23

and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

Rom 1:24

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,

Rom 1:25

who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Rom 1:26

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.

Rom 1:27

Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Rom 1:28

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting;

Rom 1:29

being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[fn] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers,

Rom 1:30

backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31

undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[fn] unmerciful;

Rom 1:32

who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

My prayer is that Christians who think that they are being “tolerant” by staying silent about the immorality permeating our culture will wake up, STAND UP,  and stand firm for the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

When John the Baptist was the voice crying out in the wilderness for people to repent:

Mat 3:1

In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea,

Mat 3:2

and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!”

Mat 3:3

For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah, saying:

“The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
‘Prepare the way of the LORD;
Make His paths straight.’ ”[fn]

He was announcing the long-awaited coming of the Messiah’s appearance!

Mat 4:17

From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

This fulfilled the prophecy in Isaiah:

Mat 4:13

And leaving Nazareth, He came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is by the sea, in the regions of Zebulun and Naphtali,

Mat 4:14

that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying:

Mat 4:15

“The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan,
Galilee of the Gentiles:

Mat 4:16

The people who sat in darkness have seen a great light,
And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death
Light has dawned.”[fn]

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14 Responses to “Right vs. Wrong Has Been Replaced by an Us vs. Them Morality in the Culture Wars”

  1. GMpilot Says:

    You’re simply repeating what you said in tour previous topic, hostess. At least that makes it easier for us both:

    CJW: Why would people do this?
    Because they just want to win an election SO BADLY that they will dismiss in their own minds what is clearly written out in Scripture as being wrong; and they also allow themselves to turn a blind eye to what has always been considered right – morally speaking.
    Ah, I understand! Like you denounced Mitt Romney in ’12, but declared you’d “hold my nose and vote” for him, just to get Obama out of office. You wanted to win an election SO BADLY!
    Even the most principled of people can and do abandon their principles when their interests are at stake.

    Did you catch that specific information about the accused sex offender pushing such an aberrant law that was revealed in the Rush’s comment?
    In fact—and you actually quoted this—the caller said ”…I think it was a noted sex offender, an accused sex offender, convicted, pushed the change in the law…” He could have, you know, looked it up.
    A sex offender’s records may be sealed, but actually having such a record is public information. So I looked it up. The usual suspects are shilling it: Breitbart, RedState, WND. Snopes says otherwise. I’ll distill it for you:

    There was/is a convicted sex offender who supported the anti-discrimination bill.
    He was not involved with drafting the ordinance, or in any other way.

    Interestingly, this man didn’t get his jollies by prowling bathrooms. He had been a youth minister at the time of his offenses, so I would guess he found his victims at church, just like the actual clergy sometimes do.

    Now—because of the spin it’s gotten in the wingnut press—it has become not an us-versus-them meme, but a good-versus-evil one. Heck, you’re doing it, on this very thread! You’re just being coy about it, that’s all.

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    • christinewjc Says:

      The Romney candidacy is not the same thing as the Trump candidacy. Granted, many evangelical Christians apparently stayed home rather than vote for a Mormon, but that is not the same thing as abandoning the moral values and ethics that are clearly stated in Scripture.

      If you recall the Syncretism Stew post, there are many people who label themselves as “evangelical Christians,” but are very far from actually being one. Calling someone born again in Christ is a more accurate label for Bible-based Christians because of the “stew pot” of people who label themselves under the larger banner of “evangelicals.”

      Pushing for an aberrant law is the same thing as supporting it, GM. You are attempting to parse words here when it’s not necessary!

      If the convicted sex offender was a youth “minister,” then he was probably a potato in the syncretism stew mix.

      GM wrote:

      Now—because of the spin it’s gotten in the wingnut press—it has become not an us-versus-them meme, but a good-versus-evil one. Heck, you’re doing it, on this very thread! You’re just being coy about it, that’s all.

      Rush was sharing the truth about the change in narrative that the left uses in order to get their grievances out, gain attention and then demonize, berate, harass, riot, hate, steal, kill and destroy the “them” who don’t agree with the “us” mentality.

      I haven’t changed my mind on what’s good vs. evil. God doesn’t either! But those who hate Bible-based Christians can’t “win” by admitting that what they are actually doing is trying to normalize evil by committing various sins while re-branding them all as “hate speech.” Therefore, they change the narrative into an “us vs. them” one in order to get their evil ways done on this earth (and convince others to do the same!). What a sad, sad, state of affairs!

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      • GMpilot Says:

        CJW: If you recall the Syncretism Stew post, there are many people who label themselves as “evangelical Christians,” but are very far from actually being one.
        Since I don’t know exactly what an “evangelical Christian©” is supposed to be, all I have to go on is how they behave. That method works for carpenters, engineers, even teachers, because we know what their standards are. ECs say they have standards too, so that’s how we should be able to tell if they are what they say they are. But even evangelicals themselves rarely agree on what makes a proper evangelical.
        “Jesus Christ and him crucified” may be a good start, but what about the rest? One cannot preach in a vacuum.

        Pushing for an aberrant law is the same thing as supporting it, GM. You are attempting to parse words here when it’s not necessary!
        Not so. The buzz on the right-winger sites is that he was the architect of the ordinance, that he’d planned it all from the dark recesses of his degenerate mind. All he actually did was say “I think it’s a good idea.” No one ever sought his endorsement, and given his record I doubt it would have been welcomed.
        I mention his church association only because the wingnuts never would…and what if he wasn’t an element in your bubbling syncretic stew?

        Rush was sharing the truth about the change in narrative that the left uses in order to get their grievances out, gain attention and then demonize, berate, harass, riot, hate, steal, kill and destroy the “them” who don’t agree with the “us” mentality.
        You’re not going to claim that the right doesn’t use exactly the same methods, are you? Of course not: it’s only coincidence that when Drumpf–or “Der Furor”– speaks about certain groups of people, members of that group just happen, later, to get hurt. But you’ve been as silent as the Sphinx about that…and I’d bet Rush has, too.

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  2. GMpilot Says:

    CJW: If you recall the Syncretism Stew post, there are many people who label themselves as “evangelical Christians,” but are very far from actually being one.
    Since I don’t know exactly what an “evangelical Christian©” is supposed to be, all I have to go on is how they behave. That method works for carpenters, engineers, even teachers, because we know what their standards are. ECs say they have standards too, so that’s how we should be able to tell if they are what they say they are. But even evangelicals themselves rarely agree on what makes a proper evangelical.
    “Jesus Christ and him crucified” may be a good start, but what about the rest? One cannot preach in a vacuum.

    Pushing for an aberrant law is the same thing as supporting it, GM. You are attempting to parse words here when it’s not necessary!
    Not so. The buzz on the right-winger sites is that he was the architect of the ordinance, that he’d planned it all from the dark recesses of his degenerate mind. All he actually did was say “I think it’s a good idea.” No one ever sought his endorsement, and given his record I doubt it would have been welcomed.
    I mention his church association only because the wingnuts never would…and what if he wasn’t an element in your bubbling syncretic stew?

    Rush was sharing the truth about the change in narrative that the left uses in order to get their grievances out, gain attention and then demonize, berate, harass, riot, hate, steal, kill and destroy the “them” who don’t agree with the “us” mentality.
    You’re not going to claim that the right doesn’t use exactly the same methods, are you? Of course not: it’s only coincidence that when Drumpf–“Der Furor”– speaks about certain groups of people, members of that group just happen, later, to get hurt. But you’ve been as silent as the Sphinx about that…and I’d bet Rush has, too.

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    • christinewjc Says:

      GM wrote:

      Since I don’t know exactly what an “evangelical Christian©” is supposed to be, all I have to go on is how they behave.
      [“Jesus] Christ and him crucified” may be a good start, but what about the rest? One cannot preach in a vacuum.

      That is a good start. However, just stating it rather than truly believing it does not save anyone.

      During a reply to Joe at his blog, I wrote the following (which I think applies here in answer to your question):

      The parable of the wheat and the tares answers your question exactly! Matthew 13:24 – 30

      The tares look like wheat, but come harvest time, the tares are separated from the wheat (as will all false “believers” from true born-again believers in Christ) and thrown into the fire.

      Jesus never parses words. He tells it like it is. Here’s another example:

      Mat 7:21

      “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

      Mat 7:22

      “Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’

      Mat 7:23

      “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

      Pretenders won’t make it into heaven.

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      • GMpilot Says:

        That is a good start. However, just stating it rather than truly believing it does not save anyone.
        As I said, all I have to go by is how the believer behaves. not what he says. Talk is cheap.

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      • christinewjc Says:

        It depends on what kind of behavior you are referring to. Biblically-based right behavior differs from what secular humanists (SH) would decipher as “good” behavior.

        To SH, anyone who self-identifies as Christian and agrees with their “values” (i.e. celebrates homosexual behavior and nowadays, the transsexual behavior meme) is considered “good” in their eyes.

        It isn’t what man perceives as “good,” but what God says that is good.

        Believers attempt to be good in order to please God. But we often fail…sometimes miserably. But that is why belief in “Jesus Christ and Him crucified” and our confession of sins and faith in Him alone is necessary.

        Believers aren’t perfect, just saved by a God who is.

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  3. GMpilot Says:

    It depends on what kind of behavior you are referring to. Biblically-based right behavior differs from what secular humanists (SH) would decipher as “good” behavior.
    ‘Biblically-based right behavior’ says one thing only: god must be obeyed, period. If god says worship, man must worship. If god says eat this, not that, man must eat this, not that. If god says slaughter, man must slaughter. I get it.

    It isn’t what man perceives as “good,” but what God says that is good.
    So if god says “destroy your neighbors,” then that’s good. That excuses every tyrant who ever lived. I get it.
    Which leads back to the old question: is something ‘good’ because god says it’s good, or does god say something is good because it is good? If it’s the first one, then god could change his mind at any time, and something that was once good becomes not-good, because he says so. If it’s the second one, then what is good is good even if no one says so…and that means even god answers to a higher standard.

    …that is why belief in “Jesus Christ and Him crucified” and our confession of sins and faith in Him alone is necessary.
    You mean James is wrong, then? I suspect that other evangelicals will disagree with you there.

    Believers aren’t perfect, just saved by a God who is.
    That what followers of every religion say. Just ask them!

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    • christinewjc Says:

      No. James is not wrong. However, your interpretation of what he is saying is incorrect.

      Salvation (redemption) comes first, then justification. Romans 3 spells it out.

      Also, it helps to view Vine’s Expository Dictionary of the term “justified.”

      Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

      I.to render righteous or such he ought to be

      II.to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

      III.to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be

      Salvation happens in an instant. Sanctification through justification is a life-long process.

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      • GMpilot Says:

        I acknowledge that my interpretation of James may be less than perfect. I’ve read the same text you have (I was raised with the KJV), but I don’t have an academic certificate to back me up. I only have that text, and it didn’t seem especially hard to understand.
        You, OTOH, have not attempted to answer (or even dispute) the original question: is something good because god says so, or is something good whether or not he says so?

        While we’re at it, just what do you consider ‘Biblically-based right behavior’? Be specific, now.

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      • christinewjc Says:

        I think that Jesus can answer your question better than I ever could when a man asked what good thing he should do that he may have eternal life. Notice how Jesus first asks the man why he called Him good.

        Mat 19:16

        Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[fn] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

        Mat 19:17

        So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?[fn] No one is good but One, that is, God.[fn] But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

        Mar 10:18

        So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

        Luk 18:19

        So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

        Notice that in Matthew 19:17, Jesus answered the second part of the man’s question. “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

        Is that “good deed” even possible? The answer is no. We know that NO ONE but Jesus kept the commandments perfectly. Therefore, our Savior took the sins of the world upon Himself at the cross in order for our sins to be forgiven. Repentance of our sins, accepting Christ as Lord and Savior, and asking Christ into our hearts through the power of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is how we can have eternal life with Him.

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      • GMpilot Says:

        I think that Jesus can answer your question better than I ever could when a man asked what good thing he should do that he may have eternal life.
        I wasn’t asking Jesus, I was asking YOU. (I also asked nothing about eternal life.) You’re the one slinging around definitions of “good”.
        First you tell me ”Biblically-based right behavior differs from what secular humanists (SH) would decipher as “good” behavior,” but when I ask you what that behavior is, you dodge the question. Now you try to define “good” as a person, not a condition. We both know that even people who are not ‘good’ can do things that are good—but you can’t even bring yourself to parse that. If you can’t even define what good is in your own mind, you have no business trying to explain it to me—or anyone else. BIoLA would be disappointed.

        Notice that in Matthew 19:17, Jesus answered the second part of the man’s question. “But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
        Luke 18:20~23 is a great deal more specific. Jesus mentions “good” only once, to say that god was, and he himself was not. I don’t claim to know what he would have considered Biblically-based right behavior, but then, Jesus never read the Christian bible.

        I didn’t ask you about “sanctification” or “justification”, or any other term you would use to obfuscate the subject. I asked you to tell me what “Biblically-based right behavior” means. I have my own ideas, and I expressed them earlier, and you didn’t deny them. I guess that means my definition is just as valid as yours.
        Now, you can come out swingin’, or you can drop this thread and run.

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  4. insanitybytes22 Says:

    This was really said. I take great comfort just in the simple fact that there are Christians leaning into The Word and also scratching their heads and wondering what is going on out in the world.

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    • christinewjc Says:

      Yes…there are still some of us out here sharing God’s Word and what is written regarding right vs. wrong. People can’t change such truth, so they attempt to change the narrative. Unfortunately, many people have fallen into the trap set by the enemy of our souls.

      The us vs. them meme informs us about what is at stake and what is really going on in the minds and hearts of individuals and certain groups. It explains why people who once called themselves Christian, are leaving the way, the truth and the life in Christ and exchanging it for a lie. It is very sad. All we can do is point out such errors to them and hope and pray that they will seek out God’s Truth, repent, and return to Christ.

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